Disabilities and Relationships
Public Group active 3 days, 7 hours agoThis is for people who are in all sorts of relationships, be it marriage, dating, friendship etc. to share the joys and woes that go with one or both of you having a disability. The idea is to help support one another and to listen and learn and come away with positive ideas to help build successful relationships.
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Attif posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 4 months, 1 week ago · updated 3 months ago · Viewi’m so lonely brocken angel…
Are you ok Attif? Loneliness is one of our biggest hurdles, loneliness in love is the hardest.
i’m ok but i share my feelings when i feel so alone , its seem like i’m telling some one about my condition …. yes m living with broken heart but every one has own life and have right to live accordingly his/her will …. thnx for asking me
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Shelby Leonard posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 5 months, 3 weeks ago · updated 3 months, 2 weeks ago · ViewI have a hard time making good friends, the people I do meet are all about them, I alway hope for a two way friendship and never works out that way. Also I haven’t dated for 5 years because of my last relationship went sour and since then I have not dated anyone. I am open for any advice on how to meet some honest friends and how to overcome the fear dating again. Thanks
Well dating is hard for everyone. Take your time and believe that there are good guys out there because there are.
Hi shelby! i haven’t dated anymore since the stroke hit me. I honestly dont know who in his right mind would want to date me, with all the UNDAMAGED GOODS out there………….hahaha well I?m just laughing in order not to cry, really…….so where are the good guys?
Shelby, Tessa here again ! Hope u don’t mind….I was just going throughthe whole site and got to re-read your post and my comment to it ( all above ). I realized I actually didn’t answer you, really. What i did instead was what u blamed other ppl do to u constantly: find a way to think amd only think about themselves. yep, I did it to, so sorry. but it’s good I ralized even if a bit late, so here I am again trying, this time for real, to answer your questions as better as I can.
why friendships with u go only 1 way, like a 1 way road. It could be cuz u give a lot put a lot of effort into the act of friendship making and raise your expectations, like u expect the same in return. well I used to do the same but let me tell u that’s the wrong approach. that way you’re bound to lose. I lost a lot too. Never ever exèect anything fro anyone. NEVER. this way, IF and i say IF u get something in return u’ll be positively surprised!! expectation is relationships’ number one killer, be it a friendship, or more than that. Believe me. that’s all there is to it. all u need to keep in mind. all u really need to know. Sooooo i hope u’ll be POSITIVELY surprised from now on. pop in to my page and let me know if it worked, cuz, after all, this is just my opinion. Take care!
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tessa blank posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 4 months, 2 weeks ago · updated 4 months, 1 week ago · ViewDAMAGED GOODS…………I just loved that expression, cuz that’s exactly how I feel now, after my stroke……ex husband is ……ex already, he has been for the last 6 years, I ’changed’ due to my stroke 4 yrs ago, and i understand all too well your complains…..but I also read the positive comments, which were so GREAT and comforting. I do agree with the lady, whose name I forgot, who mentioned the fact that so few people post a comment in here. Yes, I do believe people are scared to open up, when they actually shouldn’t be, and I guess what scares them the most is to recognize their own weeknesses.
Welcome Tessa! Your on the right track about admitting our weaknesses, it is hard to expose our soft spots. Hopefully with encouragement and time more of us will feel free to talk about these things.
When you say you ’changed’, is that your own assessment, or what you have been told by others? I think we do change when we face adversity, it is a necessary response. However I have also heard it hurled at people as a reason for the friend/partner/spouse to get out of a relationship when things have got tough. In that case change feels so very negative. I hope you’ve not been through that.Hubby left before the stroke, so that was taken care of already. and changed……yes of course I am and ppl see and feel it, but u see, he ’friends’ that left……….well they werent real friends so i aint lost a thing really……………changed i am and feel both physically and emotionally and……….i still have big problems with both. of course i no everyone ’s got highs and lows………though when the lows are too low……….honestly i donno anymore what the hell i’m supposed to do. I just cant cope anymore. that’s it. oh sure i have my art. i can go to the studio and draw or paint. BUT but in order to do so u need to go out, leave the house, leave the bed, leave the MAC……no at all easy……………..family is near but what can they do? they donno they’ll never no. i’ll tell u what : being bipolar has never helped relationships evolve………….
It’s good you realised the friends that left were no loss, that can be a hard one. I don’t have bipolar, just major depression. It’s horrible when you know that if you go and do something you’ll feel better, but your just not able to make yourself go and do it. Talking about it is good, is there at least one person in your family you can tell when you realise your in a low? It doesn’t fix it at all, but it helps us reason things through a bit better than if we keep it all to ourselves. There is not much anyone else can do for us, but letting them be their for you is often all that you will need.
Sorry Jules I only answer you now, yesterday I litterally slept all day………..not good, I know……….. u see, i go to a shrink once a week and i have good friemnds online and here + a sister whose very understanding, the other sister cant even help herself…………..here in Italy we are luckywe live close to each other….though sometimes I think we’re too close………..I’ve been feeling low since seotember, now though I think i’m a bit better………..i’ve been hooked to the MAC since sept, no all summer too, as a matter of fact, cuz I feel other disabled can understand what i’m going through, while sis or son and daughter cant really maybe they want to u nderstand but they cant……….they never will………….its easy for them, they com,e here they talk to me, and then they leave, on their 2 legs, they walk away they dont stumble they dont fall, they see things the way i used to not the way I do now, they bever had to breathe through a machine, they never lost their voice, they never even lost the capability of swallowing…………..I could go on but I better stop. i am sour i no, but not always. at times i can even see the positive in it….
Don’t worry Tessa, most of us here don’t expect things to happen on a schedule. You just post a comment when you can, and that is fine.
I think your outlook is realistic, some take that for negative, but it doesn’t have to be. It takes a very special person to be able to understand the impact illness and disability have on our lives without experiencing it themselves, not many can. Being realistic about what our friends and families are capable of, sometimes it makes us sad, but it also makes it much easier to forgive them their insensitivities, and have more peace within ourselves.
It is wonderful to live at a time when we can reach out to others that share similar experiences across the world and find understanding! Don’t feel bad about being tied to your computer, especially when your at your lowest, it is a life line and you are smart to grab a hold of it. Reading the comments you have already contributed here, I can see that you give as much support and understanding to others as you receive, and that is an invaluable contribution.
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Anissa Mayhew posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 6 months, 3 weeks ago · updated 6 months, 1 week ago · ViewOk…I’ll just throw it out there.
I used to feel very comfortable with myself physically, but since my strokes that’s one area I cannot wrap my mind around ever really getting over.
I adjusted so much of my life to deal with the changes in me, but THAT I can’t do anything about and my marriage is def suffering for it.
Hi Anissa!
It’s very hard to accept ourselves for who we are and what we look like even when we’ve been that way for most of our lives, so I imagine it would be a real challenge for you when the changes have happened so suddenly.
I don’t know if it will help you, but here is what helped me in my marriage. I had to realise that my problems with my self image were just that, they were MY problems. When my husband gave me a compliment, eg. ”Your skin is so soft.” it was my mind that added in a qualifier like ”It’s such a shame its covered in scars”, it was not what he was thinking or saying. When I’d say something negative about myself and he’d say ”but I still love you” or ”I love you just the way you are” I had to learn that he was not agreeing with my negative statement, simply re-assuring me that I was loved no matter how I looked. He couldn’t help but see there was a problem, but it didn’t effect the way he valued me. It took a while to go from telling myself these things to actually believing them even though I could see by the way he cared for me that they were true.
Don’t get me wrong, there have been times when he has been insensitive, and I know he’d rather I had the perfect body, but the point is he only wants that body if it’s Me in it. When I realised that, and then let myself believe it, my own issues with my body stopped interfering so much with our relationship.Although there are obviously some differences in our situations you seem to know my feelings about this SO WELL. I was always a confident self-assured person so I feel that weakness in not finding my value in a non-physical way. But a part of me just can’t get past the paralysis and changes in myself.
And I don’t think it’s something my husband knows how to deal with from me.
When I had my stroke, I was in a committed long term relationship. It was so hard for me to accept my ’new’ body and who I was going to become. Things were different physically, for me too, which put a strain on my relationship. One good thing my partner and I did was talk–I talked to him about the shame I felt in not being able to be ’intimate’ or when touching felt painful and startled me. I was frustrated as heck. But we found ways around that–we got creative. We just had to try different things. I learned that in order for me to see value in myself as a sexual being, I needed to share my feelings with him–how was he supposed to know what I was thinking or feeling? I had to learn to feel comfortable sharing those things with him. Being married or in a relationship is about learning how to communicate and share yourself with your partner, so that’s what I did.
It’s exactly as Sarah says, you have to talk to him. I have to remind my husband from time to time that my frustration is not really with him, it is with myself. The same went for my insecurities, it’s not that I don’t like or need him to say nice things to me, it was just an internal knee jerk reaction to say something negative. I had to encourage him not to stop trying, and thank him for his efforts so he knew he wasn’t doing anything wrong. It made it easier for him to be strong for me.
I’m so tired of the whole ”what I used to be” fight I seem to have with myself. I feel like he has to be tired of constantly reassuring me.
This unsure part of my personality that didn’t used to be there.
How are you going Anissa? Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner, I’m having a bit of a bad run lately.
It is a very hard thing to completely change your outlook on life, and when that change is forced on you it’s never pleasant. Your uncertainty is natural,. So is mourning what you have lost. Don’t be too hard on yourself. You need re-assuring, and I’m sure your husband is happy to be able to do that for you. It always hard to watch someone you love suffer, but it’s hardest if there is nothing at all you can do for them. The trick is to actually let his words comfort you.
If you are not sure he is copping with all the changes himself, make sure you talk to him about it. I had to tell my husband he was allowed to talk to someone about his frustrations, and while I’d prefer it was me, I understood that he would be more likely to get the help he needed from one of our trusted friends or even a councillor.
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Scarlett Bjone posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 6 months, 2 weeks ago · updated 6 months, 2 weeks ago · ViewOk, well if I’m gonna stand on a ”soap box” here, I might as well try to start up a conversation (as did Anissa) here. So, here goes….
I became disabled in 2007 when I got hurt at work. It left me with a spinal injury that not only lost me my job, but also brought an end to my career and destroyed most everything about my life as I knew it !!!!
Throughout my life, I’ve had all the normal (and not so normal) ups and downs, but during each ”down”, I’ve managed to fight my way back and ended up better than I was before. Throughout those struggles, I became a stronger individual and developed more success and independence than I ever imagined I’d achieve.
My second divorce stripped me of everything materially, but more importantly, I still had my 2 kids and the 11 bucks in my wallet. So to fight my way out of this hole (and make sure that no relationship would ever have enough control over my life to ever be able to do this to me and the kids again), I worked my butt off to put myself through college, becoming a Registered Nurse. After starting in a profession that had a lot of promise for advancement, it didn’t take me long to find my specialty and work my way up to supervisor. I had brought my life to a place where I felt comfortable, content, and secure in my life and the path I was taking. I was as close to being happy as anyone could be.
But I was no different than everyone else. I took my life for granted. I never realized how easily I could loose everything I worked so hard to build. When you can’t image the worst happening to you, you can’t ever be prepared for what can result when it does.
When you’ve been there for everyone in your life, you can’t prepare for a time when they will not be there for you. I now realize that I was to blame when I permitted my relationships with my family and friends to become a one-way street (always giving and never asking or expecting anything in return). But that was part of who I was.
After my injury, the first thing I realized, is people no longer see you the same and as a result, they quickly change the way they treat you and interact with you. That change quickly advances to avoidance and eventually ends with people disappearing from your life altogether. Relationships are not that easily replaced, especially when the close one’s (the one’s you thought would be forever) ended so easily. You find yourself not seeking out any help you might need in the hopes of hanging on to any relationships (or parts of relationships) that may still exist. But even that is temporary, because when the other parts of your life collapse, it doesn’t take long before you to see just how alone you are.
Your right Scarlet, it is horrible how fast disability and illness can isolate us. I have been sick for most of my life and have few close friends. It’s not even that anyone meant to let me down, it’s just that their life changes and evolves while mine is mostly spent ’maintaining’ what I have. They are usually several steps ahead of me before they even realise that I’m not going to be moving on with them.
I don’t know how your disability effects you, but mine makes me horribly unreliable, and it takes a special person to put up with that and not get offended or just stop trying to include me in things. There have been people like that, and they are still dear to me, but it is a very short list. Coming to terms with the fact that I don’t make the easiest of friends has given me a certain amount of peace with my isolation, it lets me forgive those that let me down so I don’t get too bitter over what should have been.
As for asking your friends for help, while you don’t want to take advantage of them, you really should let them help. I’m sure that part of what drove you to be such a giving person before your accident was the need to be a useful part of your community. That is why it doesn’t matter at the time that it is a one way street, your reward is in the satisfaction that comes from doing good for someone else. Your friends are bound to feel the same way. And I’m sure with you it wouldn’t be a one way street, you strike me as the type of person that would find a way to give something back, even if it’s buying a cup of coffee for the person that gets you to the doctors.
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Scarlett Bjone posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 6 months, 3 weeks ago · updated 6 months, 2 weeks ago · ViewThere doesn’t seem to be all that much recent activity in this group recently (not to ignore or slight the few posts that HAVE been made here). I’d have thought that THIS group would be buzzing since its such a relevant, needed and GREAT topic with a lot of potential… Are people afraid of opening up here or what?
I guess this is a place I’d come if I thought someone else might have experienced a problem I’m trying to learn to handle better, otherwise I don’t post. Some people feel that it’s not safe to put such things up online, others feel (erroneously I might add!) that their problems are not big/important/ normal enough to seek support here. Hopefully people like yourself continue to open up others will be inccouraged to do the same.
As far as replying, I’m subscribed to the group and get an email when someone posts, then I read it and if I have something encouraging to say or some personal experience with that problem I’ll contribute, otherwise I keep quiet. I’m guessing most will be that way too.
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Attif posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 7 months, 2 weeks ago · updated 7 months, 2 weeks ago · Viewm thinking wot should i say, am not well in english but want to participate in ur discussions, so say hi to all here
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Darci posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 1 year, 6 months ago · updated 10 months, 1 week ago · ViewI can’t get past the mentality that I am ”damaged goods” so why would anyone possibly want any type of relationship with me. There are plenty of other perfectly healthy normal girls out there to chose from so why bother giving me a second look? I can’t go out dancing, hiking or running ( not that I am a fan of hiking or running for that matter, you get the point) I am one of those girls who will win your heart while we are having those long getting to know each other phone conversations but I will put off meeting face to face for as long as I can. I can already see the look of pity or horror in their eyes when they see the cane. I tend to end the relationship before it even starts. Fear, it’s a bitch!
I would love to be in a relationship, but I don’t see that happening for me, ever.
You know, in my experience, you are 100% correct. There are alot of both bad and good people out there in the world. I would think that alot of bad people would think the same way you have described above. You know what though, you dont want them, and the good one will come along for you the second your not worried about it! l ) XOXOXOX @ronbercume
It took me a long time to fully understand that every one is ’damaged goods’. Some of us are just forced to acknowledge our damage because it is not possible to cover it up in the current wrapping paper that is described as ’normal’. The sort of person that is worth getting to know and love will feel sorry that you live with a disability, not because they want something better, but because they wish life was better for you. They will see your cane not as a symbol of weakness, but an outward sign of your strength and determination to keep going under adversity. Please don’t take it as a failure on your part when you meet someone who can’t do this, it is them who is damaged. They have failed to meet your standards so it matters not what their standards are, they didn’t have a chance in the first place.
Very true, all I have to say now about this is: What is ILWAD? A place for those of us who refuse to allow a disability to become a defect, a disadvantage or a defeat. Thank you guys for being with us and sharing.
Darci and Jules – gosh you both are just so incredible. Thank you Darci for what you said, I bet you echoed a lot of others feelings, I know you did mine. I don’t have a cane (but I think they are totally cool hehe) But I will never be able to go out at night or do late dinners or late coffees with friends, I will always need my home to be quiet and scheduled, if on the incredible chance I am able to go out at a moments notice I might have to put up my hand and go ’take me home now quick i am crashing’. Who would want such a boring person? With a lot of my friends who border on acquaintances I still keep up this image that I am ok because I don’t want them thinking I am a total bore or high maintenance and then get ignored. So I feel the same fear. I have pretty much accepted the fact I will remain single forever and keep telling myself that so I don’t end up disappointed but then if I do meet someone who can deal with the two versions of me – the one on my good days and then the one in thr crash – then it will be a lovely amazing surprise. Yes fear is a mega b*tch and maybe it is sad I am just resigned but I find it hurts less. Make sense?
I unfortunately have the same feeling. I also have the outward appearance of being severely obese. The hardest thing if for people to judge me based on that alone. Little do they know that a great deal of my weight loss is a result of medication side effects from my ”treatments” for bipolar disorder and fibromyalgia. I would love to lose weight but with so many physical problems, exercise is nearly impossible (unless I can find an indoor heated pool, heated to at least 85 degrees). I know of a place locally, but financially it is unfeasible for me. I tried a diet change only and lost only 40#… yes a great deal, but only 20% of what I need to be at a reasonable weight.
I turned to academics hoping that I could find someone who could look beyond my outsides, but as a psychology student 95% of my classmates are women so my dating prospects are nil.
Hopefully our membership numbers here will grow enough that we could have a date matching section for those of us who live near each other.
I think that is a great idea
I did come across a disability dating site once but with those things you can never be quite sure if it is genuine or not – at least here with us you know it will be. But I think the best thing or us all is, as the song goes, ’Jump and Fall’ and see where we end up. Fear can be absolutely debilitating but I figure we already are debilitated so it is nothing we can’t handle.
@Darci your comments have kept me thinking for weeks. I personally know the things I do to help me over come my fear or hesitations is to self talk up – you know like sports players do before a big game? We need to do more of that – and I know music is an incredibly powerful tool. So maybe if u work on those 2 things you can ’psych’ urself up enough to ignore the cane. If you ignore the cane, then others will follow suit. Sometimes people can be awkward as they do not want to hurt you or offend you but they just do not know how to react. So I guess it is about ’owning’ it and not letting it own you (@scottysuss famous words). If you are comfortable then they will take their cue from you. I know we already have enough responsibilites as it is with our various conditions but if we want to live in the ’real’ world with everybody else then it is up to us to do so. I know its hard but from what I have seen so far I don’t think you are the kind of person to let it rule ur life oxox
Dear Darci,
Please excuse this very belated response. I have not been to the site for a while but was so moved by your message that I had to respond.
First, let me say that you are a very courageous person (and your picture shows that you are very attractive, too, BTW!). Like you, I’m visually impaired. I don’t use a cane, but I do do other stuff like inadvertently bump into walls and fail to recognize people that I have known for years on the street! I’ve spent years agonizing over my relationship choices. All the men whom I have openly told about my disability have quickly and unceremoniously run for the hills! Others whom I have not told have acted ”betrayed” when they have found out.
What I have learned from all of this is the following: There is a good purpose in store for all of us, and NO ONE is EVER damaged goods! We are only damaged to the extent that we believe that about ourselves and give up. There is someone out there that is right for all if us, and clearly those guys who behaved in such a small-0minded way were not right for me! Your willingness to speak openly about these issues and to create a discussion signals that you are very definitely not in the ”I give up” column! Keep recognizing that you ARE worth it, and ask for support from those who care about you when you need it!
I hope that this response does not sound too Pollyanna-ish – it is how I really feel!
Best to all! L
You are a gem Leslie. a real treasure to us all ox
My ex husband was awesome and understanding regarding my illness in the first half of our marriage. He went to doctor appointments, held my hand through all those nasty test, standing by the bed so he was the first person I would see after I woke up from surgery. I never let a day go by without telling him how much I appriciated him. But then in the end he started resenting me. He would criticize me everyway possible and tell me no man would ever want to be with me with me being sick. And taking me to court going from one extreme to another, it really ripped me a part.
So I feel exactly like Darci I feel like DAMAGED GOODS. (oh my I’m breaking down in tears) I can live a pretty normal life it’s not like I have to many restrictions. I just have to spread my energy and activities out through the day. By looking at me nobody would never even know I had an disease unless I shared. But just because I look good doesn’t mean everything on the inside is good. Basicly I am damaged goods. What do I have to offer anybody? I can’t work and it seems as though that is one of the most important things men want. I think they must think I’m looking for a sugger daddy when in fact all I really want is a partner/companion. I have a huge heart and I do have a lot to give someone but none of it is materialistic. So many people say that they are searching for their soul mate, other half. That’s not me. I’m just wanting to find my best friend one that we could compliment one another and enjoy the good and the bad this life has to offer us.
It does hurt so much when nobody will even give me the time of day the moment I tell them my situation.I know in the end, this is just another website. But we are real, the folks behind it, and we are here for you no matter what.;) Xoxoxoxox
I have those exact same thoughts! and I battle them daily in my relationship….BUT at the end of the day you (and I) are a beautiful person and if someone falls in love with you then they fall in love with ALL of you…good, bad, and indifferent.
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Courtney posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 11 months, 3 weeks ago · updated 11 months, 3 weeks ago · ViewHi lovelies. I have not posted in here in a while but I do have some new experience with relationships that I want to post soon. I love the love I feel here oxox
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Jules posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 1 year, 1 month ago · updated 1 year, 1 month ago · ViewHow do you cope with the Carer/Caree relationship?
My husbands work in caring for me has just been recognised by the Australian government in the form of a small allowance. Up until now he has always cared for me, but not been my carer as such. He seemed to need the acknowledgement from someone other than me, and it has made him happier because he can officially say he cares for his disabled wife when others question that he is so time poor.
It is me who is having trouble with this. Confusingly I know I need his help and am thankful every day that he is there for me, grateful for his patience and overwhelmed by his love. But, I want to be a partner in our marriage, not just a dependent, and right now I just don’t feel like one. I can’t work out if it’s just the label that bothers me, or if the label has just forced me to recognise the position I’m in, but I really don’t want to have a carer! How do you not feel like a burden when the person that’s helping you needs and deserves to be compensated for their efforts?
Very nice Jules
Shared with our FB members: http://www.facebook.com/ilivewithadisability
Thanks Ron, I saw the link today, I wondered if it was because I added a post!
Nope, in most cases one of us will post it to the Facebook page manually. ; )
Whether or not you are disabled, EVERYONE needs help in life, so try not to focus so hard on it. I’m serious. Lioke for example I live in an area where alot of people are different cultures so we speak different languages and they always stop and ask me for help. I laugh in my head because I was really scared that I woould be the one needed all the help but through this experiance it showed me that all people are important, and need help at times.
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Courtney posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 1 year, 5 months ago · ViewOhhhh did you see our awesome group mentioned in this article? http://www.hunschool.org/news/detail.aspx?pageaction=ViewSinglePublic&LinkID=18704&ModuleID=26 we are famous heheh oxoxox Make sure you keep in touch with us. I have some stories to tell about my family and I soon that I think many of you will be able to relate to. Miss you all.
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Courtney posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 1 year, 7 months ago · updated 1 year, 5 months ago · ViewAfter a recent unpleasant experience a dear friend emailed me this song which I JUST had to share with you. It really highlights the importance of always remembering the one you love is at times fragile and precious and it is so important to give them time. Let me know if you like this song.
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Courtney posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 1 year, 5 months ago · ViewLaurie Edwards is the author of Life Disrupted: Getting Real About Chronic Illness in Your Twenties and Thirties. She is also a writing teacher in Boston. She has lived with chronic challenges since she was a child and loves to reach out to other young people to discuss dating, college and relationships.
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Courtney posted an update in the group
Disabilities and Relationships: 1 year, 5 months ago · ViewJenni Prokopy talks about her view on saying yes to those activities and people around us who are healthy for us, as well as saying no to those that are not.
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